PODCAST EP. 377: "Ballad of the Bird Dog" Goes Official with Musician Reese Glover

Speaker 1 (00:50.664)

Welcome to On the Wing Podcast presented by Purina Pro Plan. We are your songs about Bird Dog's leader. Copyright Dan Barrero. I stole that from him. this episode is a somewhat of a reprise of our episode last year, number 317, in which we welcomed Reese Glover to the podcast.

After he sent me the song Ballad of the Bird Dog following his reading of a blog I wrote about the passing of my once-in-a-lifetime bird dog eskey. today Reese is joining us back at the office for a conversation about the ballad of the bird dog going official. We'll find out exactly what that means. And Jared Wiklund's wife, Carrie, texted me after his last appearance on the podcast and said, please don't ever ask Jared to be on the podcast again. So I went the other direction and I've got Jared back along with Casey, who so thanks guys for serving as co-host. Reese, thanks for coming back. You don't know the story, but

Speaker 2 (02:15.733)

I might have to hear the story.

Speaker 3 (02:17.518)

Yes. If you wait a couple of weeks it'll be a brand new one 'cause the next next camping trip's coming up. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:25.598)

Carrie, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:28.322)

Ha ha ha.

Speaker 1 (02:30.772)

All right, as as we get rolling here, I mentioned Reese that Ballad of the Bird Dog is now going official. and for for folks, I wanna point people back. Please give a listen to episode three seventeen. It was one of our most listened to podcasts last year. yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:53.824)

It might have been me listening that many times.

Speaker 3 (02:55.98)

Ha ha.

Speaker 1 (02:57.364)

It it got tremendous social media traction because we you allowed us to use the song in the social play. And you know, your kindness reaching out to me after the passing of ESC and then you know, we had Sparks telling about his beloved Tippet. it was a cheerjerker of an episode, but also really sort of kind of the human kindness that exists out there and connects our community with bird dogs and

hunting and I think it really struck a chord with a lot of folks. So when you asked, hey you want to talk again the the the ballad of the bird dogs going official heck yeah let's let's you know you don't live very far away we can do it in person but I'll be honest I don't hundred percent know what it means that I I mean I thought it was official already. So so what does it what does it mean to you as an artist that a song is becoming official?

Speaker 2 (03:55.084)

Yeah. before it was we had just done a live take during a session in little spot up in Brainerd, Minnesota, where I had some of my videography buddies come up and they wanted to record some of my original stuff and use it for marketing purposes, what it you know, what have you. And and so we did that like live session. We recorded a bunch of songs, Ballad of the Bird Dog being one of them, and just put that out on YouTube.

And then I got connected with you and shared that obviously and glad to hear that it had a bunch of lessons on it too. But yeah, since then, so we had that that kind of version, live version available there. But last August, so almost a year ago now, we were in the studio, so we officially cut the song and recorded it and have since you know mixed and and mastered the song and putting it out on all streaming platforms. so that's that's kind of what it means to

To go official and you know, it's still a stripped down version of you know, we recorded five songs in that in that EP that we're putting out, but I would say this is the most stripped down. And what I mean by stripped down is not overly produced. We you know, by by nature we wanted to keep this one kind of more more just us musicians in a room. So if we got a fiddle player on the song, we got my vocals and acoustic guitar on the song.

Then we got an upright bass and that's it. And we recorded it in just one live take together. and we recorded it multiple time. I'm not that good. we recorded it a few different few different takes, but we recorded it just like in one steady take together as a band. recorded it. So and yeah, making it officials I'm super excited about it just because, you know, I think it does resonate with a lot of people, specifically this community, the bird hunting community.

Speaker 1 (05:23.423)

One take. No.

Speaker 2 (05:47.011)

and so yeah, I'm just excited to get it out there. August seventh is when it's coming.

Speaker 1 (05:51.414)

August seventh, this song or the and the rest of the album or this song alone?

Speaker 2 (05:56.178)

the whole EP is gonna be released that at that time. We've released a few singles already up to this point off the E P. and and then yeah, we'll we'll release it all together as like one single project that we recorded on Wisconsin's where we recorded. So in Menominee, Wisconsin at at a place called the Drum Farm. So Yeah, yeah. Some other great musicians have recorded there too. local guy named Tony Cacchetti, he's a Minnesota guy.

Speaker 1 (06:10.591)

Where where Wisconsin didn't?

Speaker 1 (06:15.96)

Rum fine.

Speaker 2 (06:25.4)

But he he recorded there, and a few other great folks too, so

Speaker 1 (06:28.788)

EP, remind me what EP means.

Speaker 2 (06:31.82)

Yeah, it's just anything shorter than an album, which is generally like a group of, you know, five to eight songs is kinda where an E P sits. You know, albums can be a little bit longer, so just more songs within the You know, I don't even I don't even know. That's that's D T man. Sure. Yeah. I think it's we could look it up, but I think it's like electronic playlist, maybe. I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:48.524)

I think it's it's E P bro.

Speaker 1 (06:57.558)

I don't think so. They had E Ps like back in

Speaker 3 (07:02.51)

I think it's a coiner.

Speaker 2 (07:05.056)

Extended play, it sounds for me. I should know that. Anywhere from three to six tracks it says on the

Speaker 1 (07:11.032)

There's one five songs. Do you know the do you know the five all all five songs off the top of your head?

Speaker 2 (07:16.502)

Yeah, yeah. We've got Ballad of the Bird Dog, Swift County Fair, that one's already released. Okay. we've got a song called No Alibi. That's one that's not released yet. another one called Light My Day. I wrote that one for my wife. that one is about moving back to the mountains where we met. And then last one is my gosh. See Minnesota and me. Minnesota and me. that's that's one that one's been released already. So Light My Day.

Minnesota means Swift County Fair are already c singles that we've released, so we'll have two more that come.

Speaker 3 (07:48.908)

Now I know you said in the first podcast that you get your inch inspiration from people like Tyler Childers. You've got a turnpike hat on, which we appreciate. We just had them for the concert for conservation. He was there. Awesome. You know, you mentioned earlier the the fiddle and was it a bass and a guitar? Yep. Sort of those three instruments. Is is that are all the songs sort of in that same genre then?

Speaker 2 (08:14.508)

No, like they're kind of all a it's a pretty good mix of so all the instruments in my band. we've got a steel guitar player, we've got a fiddle player, we got a bass player who plays both upright bass and then standard bass guitar, and then we've got percussion and and then lead electric guitar too. So awesome. it's it's kind of a mix of like I would say country rock and then more some folk is more like what ballad of the bird dog is kind of follows. So

Country rock, folk, it's it's a good mix of of all that. and really just focused on like narrative storytelling. I would say is kind of the songwriting style, like Tyler Childers, like your turnpike.

Speaker 1 (08:55.244)

It's

Speaker 3 (08:55.458)

Sounds right up my alley because on Pandora I listened to like basically like two or three stations and Tyler Childers Radio is one of them and Luke Combs radio is another. Nice. Yep. And then well

Speaker 4 (09:05.15)

Kind of hit both. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:08.248)

Pan Pandora? Yeah. Do does anybody still use Pandora as I

Speaker 3 (09:12.686)

I have it on I have it on my phone. yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:15.214)

Apparently I'm the one that's out of S so we know from the last conversation with Jared Benson. Yeah. So i if if any artists out there have songs about bird dogs, come see us because we wanna we wanna we watch you on our on our podcast. But we know from that conversation you haven't played music. You're primarily focused as on acting as your side toss. Sure, sure. Jared, have you ever

Speaker 4 (09:41.432)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:44.59)

played an instrument any music and before you answer, we're gonna ask Casey to guess and what instrument would Jared be. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:53.432)

Flute man.

Speaker 2 (09:56.674)

He's a rec recorder guy for sure. Recorder.

Speaker 1 (10:00.074)

Pan flute. Tan flute. Like Zampir, the master of the pan flu. Have you ever played an instrument, Jerry?

Speaker 4 (10:07.842)

Well, hold on. Can I give a real guess though? Yeah. Okay. Trombone.

Speaker 1 (10:12.873)

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:15.112)

I love singing, so like I grew up I grew up I did a lot of choir.

Speaker 1 (10:20.268)

You love singing? Yeah. I had no idea. yeah. Do you wanna give us a little sample?

Speaker 3 (10:23.578)

I'll

not today. I'd love to talk to His wife definitely wouldn't let him come back with us. I was in I was in a qu a quartet with a couple guys from high school and college. We do go and do like weddings and gigs and stuff like that. But growing up, I actually I actually played piano.

Speaker 1 (10:29.166)

Yes.

Speaker 1 (10:36.099)

So

Speaker 4 (10:50.264)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:51.618)

You were in a barbershop quartet? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:54.23)

You guys wear the hats? The little straw hats and the st

Speaker 1 (10:56.257)

Interest.

Speaker 3 (10:56.984)

No, we didn't do any of that shit. We just we just we just sang and made made good music. We did that I didn't know that either. Yeah, so it was pretty cool. I was also going back to that our group got found out about, I guess, by one of the one of the arts teachers at Duluth East High School. And one of the best things I ever did in high school before I graduated was we did the the play My Fair Lady.

Speaker 1 (11:02.007)

No idea.

Speaker 3 (11:26.246)

and we were we were the the quartet in there for the entire time. So no kidding. Yeah, it was actually a really it was actually a really great experience. but going back to piano, I did play piano growing up, but as I got into sports, specifically tennis and soccer, I got to the point where it's like I was spending so much time on the court or on the field and like just doing things outside that like I'd get to Sunday night. Cause like we had Mrs. Prohaska, God bless her, she's gone now. She just

She actually just passed away. I think it was last year my mom let me know that. But she was my piano teacher growing up. And I get to the point where like I was just so busy with sports and with the outdoors and other things. I would get to like Sunday night and I really hadn't practiced yet, you know. And my dad, my mom and dad would be like, You're you're gonna sit down and you're gonna learn learn those songs that you have to do for your recital and stuff. And I get to the point where like I just didn't like it anymore because I I wanted to do these other things. But now looking back at that,

My mom is just a hell of a piano player. she's got a grand grand piano that we purchased for their place down in Tucson, Arizona. She plays it every single day. she is unbelievable. And I I wish I had a hundredth of the talent that she does on the piano. I'm I I sort of miss it and I wonder like, should I get back into it? But then again, I got so many other things right now and kids growing up that wanna hunt and play, you know, play sports and do that type of thing. They're in the

Kind of the same boat.

Speaker 4 (12:54.284)

I've always been jealous of anybody who could play the piano. I think my dad used to play a lot when he was like high school age. And it I never got into it. My my brother, who also works for Pheasants Forever, started playing the piano when he was in like junior high. and we he used to he used to go to my aunt's house who had this little upright piano and or whatever they're called the, you know, not a grand piano. and he would learn

From the piano buddy, only learn how to play one song.

Speaker 3 (13:27.182)

You only need one.

Speaker 4 (13:31.198)

It was like two thousand and five probably, so it was a cold place. That cold place on No, he got a little bit better than that. But eventually

Speaker 1 (13:35.412)

I was thinking it was like the chops.

Speaker 3 (13:40.046)

Cold like what's what's the that one?

Speaker 4 (13:42.498)

The piano coldplay song. I don't know what it's called. You would all know the song. But anyway, that's the only thing you can play and eventually you're just like, Jesus, Danny, you gotta stop

Speaker 3 (13:54.222)

Just taking take an axe to that piano and the next time you

Speaker 4 (13:58.605)

my god. Yeah. So anyway, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:02.742)

remember if I asked you last time you were on, did you grow up learning instruments, playing band in in high school, that sort of thing? Or is are you

Speaker 2 (14:12.206)

Yeah, a self-taught. and I think we did touch on it a little bit, but it was I learned in college to play guitar. My my mom's guitar sat in my room basically all throughout college. I picked it up for class of class project actually. and we had this class called Neuromotor Muscular Development. and it's all about skill development, learning new skills. And the project for the year was to learn a new skill.

And so I I chose to learn a few cores on good on my guitar and basically almost failed the class because I didn't hardly picked it up at all. And so yeah, no, I didn't grow up playing playing music. I was similar to you, Jared, I was just in choir and stuff like that. So I had more of a vocal background. but then just played played more and more and really made it a goal of mine to learn. and so it was like fifteen minutes every day, like everybody says to do.

And then it took me about a year to learn how to play and sing together. And then I started doing open mics because I liked, you know, singing and and playing and really really kind of just took off from there. and just got my start randomly with music. a guy was playing at at this little spot up in Brainerd, Minnesota, and my wife and I were just up there and he looked out at the crowd. And at this point I'd only been o doing open mics.

Speaker 1 (15:36.246)

And this is at a brewery.

Speaker 2 (15:37.256)

This was at like a little cafe brewery called Minnesota Traders Company, also where the ballad of the bird dog where we recorded that session was at the first place I ever had my first gig. which was cool that we were kind of made it like a full circle moment. but yeah, this musician was playing and he looked out at the crowd. It wasn't too many people out there and he's like, You wanna come up and anybody wanna come up and sing a song? And I've had maybe a few beers that day, so I was like, Yeah, I'll come up that's right.

Speaker 1 (16:02.584)

let me start how many beers did

Speaker 2 (16:04.98)

I maybe I have four or five, maybe ten. I don't know. It was only a few beers. But but yeah, he invited me up and then the venue owners eventually you know, they saw me play and asked me to come back and play a two hour set and that's essentially how I got my start playing music. and make it kind of like a little side hustle, side job. and now we've like had it's just crazy to think about the journey for I mean, it's nothing like we haven't done anything astronomical, but

we've opened for some decent names now. since we last talked, like a guy named Josh Malloy opened for him. we've we've played with Joe Stamband. He's another like national league touring act. then played festivals like last year with same like names like Riley Green, Gary Allen, and this last year we played with or just a couple months ago we played with you know, Tucker Wetmore and Bailey Zimmerman and all these kind of other country n like

big country names you know on a same festival poster. I'm like I never thought I would see myself on a poster with the names of these people. so and and that's kind of like I don't know, it's it's it's just been a super fun journey. Going

Speaker 3 (17:17.228)

back to where you picked it up in college. Yeah. You mentioned that course. Is that like a is is that like a semester course or was that

Speaker 2 (17:22.924)

Yeah, it was just semester course. Okay. and all like you just like had to choose like people were like, I wanna learn how to do a layup or I wanna like with a basketball or like random skill and and I was like, I I have this guitar.

Speaker 3 (17:36.206)

That's what that's where I was going with this. Is I thought it was maybe so like I went to Luther College in northeast Iowa. so down kind of kind of just south of where you grew up, I think. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 (17:47.426)

I went to the University of Wisconsin Lacrosse. Okay. and I was in the exercise science program and neural development was like one of the required courses that we had to take.

Speaker 3 (17:58.946)

That's what that's what I started in was was exercise science, exercise physiology. Exercise physiologist. I was hunting and fishing so much, I'm like, I gotta get out of here. A lot of heart problems in our family. So it you connected with me on that last podcast you did. yeah. A about that. But the reason I asked about the course was I'm like I thought it was maybe like a J term course or something. Like I never had a music course or anything like that. Like my my J Term course was Scandinavian fine handicraft. We take slow down.

Speaker 2 (18:02.914)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:08.718)

Well

Speaker 1 (18:27.054)

Slow down.

Speaker 4 (18:29.612)

Water basket weird.

Speaker 3 (18:30.658)

Yeah, it was what it was Scan Scandah Hoovie in fine handicraft. we whittled things.

Speaker 1 (18:32.301)

What save?

Speaker 1 (18:36.065)

And what did you do?

Speaker 3 (18:41.76)

And do you use that skill to this day? I like to think it like when I when I come to you know processing a deer or something like that, maybe it maybe it helps helps with that. But I I don't do a lot of like woodcrafting outside of using like a battery battery operated circular saw. So anyways, I was just curious because it sounds like a fun.

Speaker 1 (18:54.904)

Bada.

Speaker 2 (18:57.1)

Not a lot of transfer there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:07.192)

You said exercise vis physiology, right? That's your degree. And that's your day job too, right?

Speaker 2 (19:12.492)

Yeah, yep. I still am in the so I worked in cardiac rehabil rehabilitation for four years and so that's what most exercise physiologists do. and now I work for a still cardiac rehab adjacent company, completely remote. And I'm in product development essentially. We have a we have a telehealth platform that we provide for for you know, cardiac rehab programs that they use and I help to build that product. So

Speaker 1 (19:41.671)

And how much time is music occupying on your your daily weekly basis now? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:48.014)

Quite a bit. Usually it's like three or four gigs a week. We got three this this upcoming weekend. so hourly wise I I don't know, I can't put an exact on it, but you know, it's anywhere from I would say, you know, eight to ten hours. but that doesn't include, you know, you're going to a gig, you're setting up everything and tear down all that. And then all the marketing that is behind it all too. So it's Yeah, no. I'm complete we're completely independent. I play solo and with the band and so it's

Speaker 1 (20:10.956)

Yeah, it's not like you have people.

Speaker 3 (20:17.89)

Yeah, that's kinda where I was going was are you doing all originals or like with the band, do you guys do do you guys do covers and stuff?

Speaker 2 (20:23.906)

Yeah, we do we do we mix in a lot of our original stuff and then it depends on it depends on the one, the set, how much time we have and then two, like who's the crowd we're playing to. but yeah, we definitely do covers in at a lot of our like we played a f a few festivals and usually we wanna place stuff that people can relate to and and know just to like hook a little bit. And then they're like, I wanna go listen to that this guy's original stuff.

two. So yeah, usually we mix in every set has original stuff and then a few covers too for sure. So yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:57.132)

You guys may have covered this already, but how did you track down your band when you play with the band? Are they guys that you've known for a long time?

Speaker 2 (21:02.698)

Yeah. Because we didn't I didn't have a band yet until really? Yeah, when we talked last I didn't have a band. so we've only been playing together for just over a year now. but yeah, I I just reached out by Instagram. Really? Yep, yep, just like I did with you, Bob. to a a guy that I saw in in the local scene playing fiddle and he I saw that he played in a couple different bands and I was just strictly looking for

Like a guy that I could just, you know, start slow with, do like a duo here and there. and I love the fiddle. So I was like reached out to him. I was like, Hey, do you want to get together and, you know, jam and see if like we're a good fit and maybe you know, you know, we could play a few shows together. He's like, Yeah, absolutely. And so we got together and we we had a few of those kind of like just jam sessions where I kind of played like the standard like covers that I had and showed him a few of my originals and he's just like

We vibed a little bit and he's like, I'm gonna get my my brother. So the fiddle's brother plays drums and he's from Mankato. He's like, Let's get him to come up here and he'll like do a couple jam sessions with us. And he's then he eventually pulled in his bass player in his own band. So my fiddle player basically built our whole band. which is kind of kind of neat and they're all kind of like so it's his brother, it's a college buddy of his who plays bass and his band, shout out Woodson, that's his band. and then they brought

Speaker 1 (22:25.902)

Standing in Woodsy?

Speaker 2 (22:26.72)

Woods in. Yep. Woods in. They're they're a Saint Paul based band. They play all over the over the place. but and then another college buddy of theirs joined later, Sam Burgeon, he's my lead guitarist. so they kind of just like built this band around us after we played a couple of shows together and really just like kind of jammed and vibed together. So that's kind of how we ended up and starting this band and we've been playing for a year now.

Speaker 3 (22:50.894)

You guys looking for a kick kick kick ass piano player? Honestly? yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:55.692)

Might have to pull you in, Jared.

Speaker 1 (22:58.958)

I thought you were gonna make the play for like the the backup singer. I could play Viola. She's produced

Speaker 3 (23:02.956)

Do that too. My daughter plays she's pretty good. She's in seventh grade. She's up and coming, but she can she can hold

Speaker 2 (23:09.922)

We might break some child labor laws if we bring in a seventh grader on Family But no, I you might have to compete with our our bass player's wife. She's trying she's gonna come play a couple of piano songs with us when we when we have a couple of shows upcoming here. So success. Yep.

Speaker 3 (23:14.591)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:25.25)

Challenging challenges.

Speaker 3 (23:26.762)

Speaker 1 (23:28.974)

boy. Well, it you know, it I I guess it'd be I'd be remiss if I didn't thank Trampled by Turtles and Dave Simonette for letting us use the song that opens all of our episodes and has they have allowed us to use a variety of songs over the years. Since we're talking about music, it seems only fitting to throw throw a big thank you to the guys. and and also mention that they have a new album.

Coming out. I think you were at the show where they announced that.

Speaker 2 (24:01.24)

Right? I was, yeah. Yeah, the good dogs, right?

Speaker 3 (24:04.93)

Doc.

Speaker 1 (24:06.114)

The name of the new album, there's a song called Good Dogs on that album. they announced it at the Minnesota Country Club Festival in St. Paul in mid-July. and the cover has I think 16 photo. I actually haven't seen the cover yet, but it's got 16 dogs featured with like their heads, and then the back of the cover is their butts.

And I'm I'm thrilled to announce that at least one of my dogs is gonna make the cover. that is so cool. I've been keeping it secret, but yeah, we brought Meredith and I brought both of our pups to Pack a Derm, which is a recording studio in Cannon Falls, Minnesota. And Dave was kind and I was like, you know, I I've got I've got at least one opening. Yeah. Bring one of your dogs down. So I was gonna bring Gitch.

Speaker 4 (24:41.806)

Really?

Speaker 1 (25:04.768)

And I I couldn't like just not bring winter. Right. So they're both in the back of my truck. And they both had their photo taken for the photo shoot. So that album I think comes out in November. I'm looking forward to seeing that is cool. Yeah. Yeah. So again, thank you to friends of the organization. They were our headliner for the very first ever concert for conservation, and I'm just

Absolutely honored to call them friends. So thanks to Trampled and thanks to Dave. I also want to say thank you to Purina Pro Plan, the presenting dog food sponsor of Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever's Wildlife Habitat Mission, and the presenting sponsor of On the Wing Podcast. My pups from tramel back in the day all the way up to Little Winter, right now, have always eaten.

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Speaker 4 (26:30.616)

From Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever National Headquarters in St. Paul, Minnesota, this is Casey Sill with the Upland Newsroom, delivering top stories from the Habitat Organization and across the American Uplands. We have breaking news for you today, as it's just come across the wires here at PF Headquarters that pointing dogs across the country are up in arms over a Labrador who recently referred to himself as versatile while in conversation with a wire haired pointing griffin at a local training night in Nebraska.

The lab's comments immediately caught fire on social media as the Griffin responded to the retriever in question with a combination of shock and horror. Versatile, who does he think he is? said Jaeger, the three year old Griffin in a video posted to his ex account. Jaeger continued on to say, quote, These labs are so high and mighty. I mean they only make good waterfowl dogs, and upland dogs and tracking dogs, police dogs.

Military dogs, search and rescue dogs, seeing eye dogs, therapy dogs, bomb sniffing dogs, agility dogs, dock diving dogs, and shed hunting dogs. And what's so versatile about that? End quote. Jaeger's comments, meanwhile, seem to have ignited a larger debate between pointers and flushers, with breeds of all kinds weighing in across social media. Drop that lab in twenty thousand acres of prairie in Montana in September and see how versatile he is then, said two year old English pointer Daisy while in the middle of her daily twenty seven mile cardio routine.

Laney, a twenty five pound French Brittany, raised an interesting question with her comment, saying, Have you ever seen those dogs eat? I'm surprised any of them can get out of the kennel in the morning. The anti lab sentiment ran the gamut, with everything from Vizlas to spinoni Italianos giving their two cents. This included one very serious looking Drothour, who volunteered to track the lab down and quote, take care of him. The setters, on the other hand, remained predictably neutral, and quickly returned to lying on the couch in a pile of their own drool.

Pulling birds out of their coat. The flusher community immediately came to the defense of the lab, posting their own videos and comments about the pitfalls of pointing dogs, including Murphy, a four-year-old liver and White Springer Spaniel, who wrote, Pointing makes no sense anyway. The bird is right there, we can all smell it. Just quit showing off and go get it. Unfortunately, this debate is just one more example of the long-standing tension between pointers and flushers.

Speaker 4 (28:53.006)

And with no end in sight, the sporting dog community waits on bated breath, fearful of the mayhem that could follow should a pointing lab get involved in the conversation. The Labrador in question was ultimately deemed unavailable when Pheasant Forever attempted to reach him for comment, since at the time he had his head buried in a 60 pound bag of Pro Plan that his owner had left unattended in the cupboard. That'll do it this week, reporting from PF and QF headquarters in St. Paul, Minnesota. I'm Casey Sell.

Speaker 1 (29:22.734)

We're going to talk a little bit more about Ballad of the Bird Dog. we haven't talked a lot about dogs and hunting in your background. We did on the last podcast, but you know, I think it's really cool when what you love, particularly for our audience, dogs, hunting, conservation, habitat, gets represented in art. Whether that's you know, we're we're surrounded by

paintings, you know, at Pheasants Forever headquarters. We we got some remodeling done. So there's not a lot of paintings right now. It's fresh paint. But whether it's paintings, wood carving, sculptures, or in this case, music. So kind of talk about your background and then the process of songwriting and how it all came to came came to be.

Speaker 2 (30:13.858)

Yeah. so I mean I grew up I grew up hunting just like my dad was a huge outdoorsman. and both my parents really were instrumental in just getting us outside, you know, camping and stuff like that. And I grew up whitetail hunting and we had flushing breeds. We grew up raising labs. So we always had a a family dog around or puppies hanging around. which was just such a cool we lived on a little h hobby farm down in southeastern Minnesota and

it's that's just a beautiful area to grow up and I really took I d I I didn't I didn't take that I took that for granted, I think. You did. definitely. And you know, so my dad and I we'd go out you know, pheasant hunting when we when I was a little kid just with our labs and it was always it's just always a great time. So this that's just kind of something that I grew up doing and and then I kind of as

you know, get older, w gets busy with sports and with girls and and stuff like that through high school and then into college. kind of all fell off. Like I I whitetail hunted like, you know, throughout that time, but the bird hunting aspect fell off until until my wife and I switched over to the dark side and got a pointer. so I've got a German short haired pointer and he just like brought me back to kind of my roots and in pheasant hunting and grouse hunting. and we've been doing it now for

you know, three, four years. Bridger's three years old, so this'll be his fourth season coming up. and Bridger's my dog's name. and so yeah, he he kinda he kinda is what brought me back to pheasant hunting again and my appreciation for it of, you know, being out there. Often it's just him and I and it's kinda my time to just get away from everything and and just be outside and hunting the, you know, public land. And it's just we're really fortunate to have what we have here.

Minnesota and and beyond too. So

Speaker 4 (32:15.33)

Two things. One, Bridger is a great dog name. I have not heard that.

Speaker 1 (32:18.72)

Emily Spoyer in North Dakota has a

Speaker 4 (32:21.392)

really? really kidding. Yeah. Great dog name. Two. Thanks. you grew up with labs. Why switch to the dark side and get a shorter standing debate.

Speaker 2 (32:35.989)

I don't that's

Speaker 1 (32:37.877)

You think they're ugly.

Speaker 4 (32:39.54)

I don't wanna get it.

Speaker 2 (32:42.446)

No. I disagree.

Speaker 4 (32:44.78)

I think Bob and I have kind of a long standing feud between the short hair between short hairs and labs. Yeah. But having grown up with labs, why the switch?

Speaker 1 (32:52.799)

Short hair.

Speaker 2 (32:53.698)

I think one is I just wanted to like one a fresh start, like something that I haven't had before. My wife and I are both super like high strung people too. And very like we're very active. We're always running and we're like, we need a dog that can like really like go out and perform. Sure. so like we'll take Berger out on, you know, five, six mile runs with us and stuff like that. He's just like, Okay, I wanna keep going. so that was a a major reason is like we both

come from endurance sports. So that was a thing that we were like, let's let's get a dog that can kind of keep up and he often outruns us or he does outrun us. so that was a big reason. And then I I just knew that I wanted to get back into into pheasant hunting too and upland hunting and and I'd just heard had heard, you know, great things about pointers and so and then my my wife's uncle actually has a pointer too. So that was another reason for her to like, you know, I'm

familiar with the breed a little bit and so that's that's kind of what tipped us over, tipped the scale a little bit. Don't get me wrong. I still I still love a lab and yeah and and yeah, I still love the lab breeds and and we probably will get a a lab in the future too, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:55.864)

Mm.

Speaker 4 (33:56.375)

I forgive you.

Speaker 1 (34:08.942)

I'm thinking about the writing process and also the listening process. So I'll start with one. start with the writing process. When you sit down to write a song, Ballad of the Bird Dog, were you sitting down like, I'm gonna write a song about my dog? Or did just inspiration struck you and you were gonna write and then also did the music

Can the melody come or the words come first? And I've heard all kinds of answers over the spectrum.

Speaker 2 (34:44.075)

Yeah. specific I mean the inspiration came first. I'm actually wearing this shirt right here that is says the ballad of the bird dog on the back. yeah. There's a company based out of Brenham, Texas. And I literally it's I saw that and I was like, that's a song title right there. so like the inspiration got Probably. Probably. But no, I was just like sitting there looking at my dog. I see this title on my, you know

Speaker 1 (34:52.748)

Yeah, there's a company

Speaker 1 (35:03.16)

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:11.596)

on my screen and I'm like, this is a this is a great song title. and then I I just start thinking about the time that we spend together out hunting. Yeah. and kind of the the imagery behind that and the themes of the song. so lyrics for this definitely came first, rather than like me sitting with a guitar and and playing. so lyrics came first and my writing process and it's still the same today is

A lot of the time I'll you know have some lyrics on my phone and Bridger and I will be out for a walk. We've got this nice little path that we just walk every morning, it's a couple miles. And usually I'll I'll sit and write. I'll write while I'm outside walking with him. Yeah. It's kind of my process. and then the yeah, the the kind of the the the guitar parts came later for for this one. But it's different every time. I s I like sometimes I'll just be on the guitar and I'm like

Ooh, this is a great like sounds really good melodically. I like I'm I could put some song lyrics to this. And I've got a whole notes thing in my phone where I'm just like, these these kind of match up to with with the the feel of the sound that I'm putting together. Yeah. So it's it's different.

Speaker 1 (36:25.666)

Kind of a collection of lyrics. yeah. And then the music may c come like completely unrelated. And it's like you're mixing them together like a puzzle.

Speaker 2 (36:36.802)

Yeah. Yeah, a lot of times it's a lot of times it's just like I'll put titles of of songs in my phone. Yeah. And then I'll say like I'll write in my notes app like this song could be about this. And then I could come back to it later. So I've got a whole history of like I don't even know how many songs. There's probably over two hundred songs in there, titles and stuff like that. But yeah, it's different every time kind of how a song will come to you. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:01.228)

The five songs you selected for your EP, how did how did those five elevate and separate themselves? Like do you have more than five that are done? Or these are your five favorite, or they're the ones that feel the most complex.

Speaker 2 (37:16.92)

We I would say that's it. we've got we've got more than five that are that are done. and but these were the ones where I felt like we could kind of put the stamp on and be like, Okay, I'm ready to go cut these in a studio, and and put it out. So and I'm just like a perfectionist by nature, so it's really tough to do it. I to to like finally release a song. Right. and so yeah, but these I just felt like okay, we just need to need to put something out and and get on paper or get on.

Audiophile at least. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:49.826)

What's the goal?

Speaker 2 (37:51.816)

that's a tough question. You asked me that last time when you do it too.

Speaker 1 (37:55.03)

And I left it in his vague.

Speaker 2 (37:56.942)

No, and and and I can say too, I mean, we've grown a lot in the last the last year and a half, especially playing with the band. Like there's more expectations. I've got guys I've got to pay now and stuff like that for playing with me. and it's just to play to to get in front of more people. It it all comes down to our my favorite thing is playing live and connecting with a group of people, connecting with an audience. and so

If we can just like play bigger and bigger rooms or bigger shows, like that's that's ultimately what it's all about for us. and I think like a dream venue would be like we want to play Red Rock someday. Like every artist wants to last. Yeah, maybe, maybe. but you know, it's just it comes down to just like keep keep writing songs that I and my band like to play and connect with people, hopefully. And

Speaker 1 (38:36.504)

Talked about that a

Speaker 2 (38:53.28)

And like I said, those shows will they'll show up if they if they do and we'll keep playing As long as people have us we'll keep playing So

Speaker 1 (39:01.09)

Seems like a natural place to insert Onyx, who had you as a featured artist as part of National Pheasant Fest and Quail Classic. I want to thank Onyx for being a partner in On the Wing podcast as well. Onyx reminds our listeners that waiting season is almost over. You know the feeling the dogs are getting restless.

You're checking rainfall and watching August Roadside reports. And every bird hunter is counting down the days until we can break away from the truck, let those dogs out of their kennels and go see what is in the fields in the f and in the forests. It's time to put away the boats, the rods, and the reels. It's time to get the shotguns out because fall will be here before you know it.

Now is also the time to open up the Onyx app and start finding new opportunities, researching new properties, new public lands, and build your plan for the fall. The best seasons don't start on opening day, they start right now with Onyx Hunt. And an invitation from Onyx came to you a few months ago as part of Pheasant Fest. Tell us about that.

Speaker 2 (40:23.532)

Yeah, that was like such a cool opportunity to to to play with those guys or to play for them. yeah, so th this last year was my in Minneapolis our my first like pheasant fest experience, which was just like such a cool, cool time walking around the convention center, petting all the dogs that are there, ran into Bob there and watched a bunch of talks and stuff like that too. Ran into Dave Simonette. you did yeah, I got to meet him. I probably

Speaker 1 (40:50.702)

We were at the show on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (40:52.232)

Yep, I was at the show on Thursday with

Speaker 1 (40:54.478)

She came Friday, like right after the gates open if I recall. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:58.454)

Yep, yep. So I went and watched him and then Turnpike played. and then who was like my favorite band of all time. And and then went to Pheasant Fest the next day, and met Dave and probably fanboyed too much .. Dave, I'm a huge fan.

Speaker 2 (41:16.142)

but yeah, so I talked to him for a little bit, which was cool. And and then yeah, on X they had us out and played like this this venue that is right next to the convention center and Hell's Kitchen. Hell's Kitchen, yep. Good spot. And they had some some other folks who were there for like this it was a cool like game show thing that they put on. The Flush. The Flush, yeah, the Flush Podcast. Yeah, Travis was there.

and met a bunch of other cool people. and then our band played, which was kind of a neat way to cap off the Pheasant Fest weekend for us. but yeah, like what a cool opportunity and and thanks to to Ben and Onex for having me out there. hopefully we'll get again next year. We'll see. we're we're trying for Omaha and yeah, it'd be fun to to make a little tour out there for that. But

Speaker 1 (42:08.174)

Speaking of tour, where if people are listening all over the the country, where can they catch you?

Speaker 3 (42:08.525)

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:15.372)

Yeah, so we're doing a a tour out to Montana's kind of the the last stopping point before we turn around and come back to Minnesota. but yeah, we're we're going on a tour from August seventh to August sixteenth. and that's gonna be a just a week long like kind of a sprint tour, we're calling it. but yeah, our first stop will be in Saint Paul at the turf club in Minnesota, and that's August seventh, and then we head out to Bismarck.

North Dakota. We're playing a spot out there called Laughing Sun Brewery. and that's on the 10th. and then we're heading to Red Lodge, Montana on the 11th. And then after that we go to we head over to Billings. We're playing a spot there called the Craft Local. and then we're going into Bozeman. We kinda got a day off, hopefully do some fly fishing while we're out there, maybe some scouting for

For present season. and then we'll we'll play a spot in Emigrant, Montana, called the Old Saloon, which is a sweet outdoor venue right at the base of the Bridger Mountain Range out there. hence where the Bridger name comes from for my dog. I guess. and so we'll be out there on that Friday, and then we come back and we're playing in Fargo, North Dakota.

Speaker 3 (43:13.742)

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:39.596)

On our way back at a spot called the aquarium downtown Fargo. So North Dakota. So that's kind of the sprint tour that we've got, but it's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 1 (43:48.408)

Do you have dates further out or yet to be determined?

Speaker 2 (43:51.664)

we've got we've got a full show schedule at for the re remainder of twenty twenty six. Yeah, yeah. What's your it's just Reese Glovermusic dot com and it's R E E S E G L O V E R. It's so that's where you can find basically all show info and social media stuff's all right there. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:56.192)

And people can find that at your website. Your website.

Speaker 1 (44:10.486)

Okay. What about hunting season? What about what are your plans for hunting like Yeah, we got a few. Yeah, d a tour, a new E P, you got hunting season.

Speaker 2 (44:19.722)

It gets busy with the music stuff, but we always make time. Like last year, and this is not as much as you guys probably go out. I went like twenty five times, which is That's good. That's pretty good. It's decent for you know, somebody everybody's busy, but yeah, you know, with with playing music and stuff on the weekends, it gets tough to make time. but you know, we'll probably we always I always start the season off back at my wife's family land out in western Minnesota. it's it's

a private private spot. So Bridger and I always start over there. knock the rust off a little bit and and hunt together. and I just love hunting out there. It's it's great. And it's a minute away from my my wife's family's house out there. So it's it's fantastic. and just get to hunt all day long. and then we got maybe an invitation from Ben from on X to come out to Montana. I know he's got some land out there. And I'm gonna hold him to that. So Ben, if you're listening then

I'm coming. We'll make sure that we might have had a a couple cocktails tonight when he invited me there. So we'll we'll see if he if he's holding true to that. so that'd be super fun if we get out to Montana. and then I've got a invitation from another buddy of mine, from Big Lake Todd. He's he's gonna be inviting me out to a spot with him and his buddies to go out to South Dakota, way out western South Dakota. And he invited me to come to that too. So he's just

He's a guy who's been out to a few shows before and he's like, I love your bird dog song. And he's like, We gotta get you to come out to to the spot that we go every year. And I was like, Yeah, man, you let me know. So we might be going out there.

Speaker 1 (45:53.464)

There are chapter volunteers listening. Mm-hmm. And I'm thinking about like South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, like destination states where people travel to hunt in the fall and they're like, this guy seems pretty fun. Like maybe we can book him to play before our banquet.

Speaker 2 (46:10.774)

There we go. Selfish selfish plug right there. I'm totally game. Yeah. Okay. Happy selfish. Yeah, just through the through my website there's I've got a like a booking page on there. So if anybody's listening who's like, man, we could we could listen to some some bird dogging music and maybe even go hunting together, I'm totally down. Yeah, it's a great time. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be a great time.

Speaker 1 (46:16.163)

Which yeah

Speaker 1 (46:32.15)

You'll have to tour with Bridger. Is Bridger normally go with ya on tour?

Speaker 2 (46:36.492)

You know this well, this is like our first our band's first like first big tour that we're doing, out of state. Yeah, so thing. I mean we travel all like around the Midwest, but we haven't done like anything that's like multiple states away. So this is our first time and Bridger's probably staying home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:52.814)

yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:53.806)

August two. Yeah. That feels telephone a double.

Speaker 2 (46:56.162)

But haunting season, that's a different story. yeah. Yeah. That the Kennel's definitely coming along if that's the case. So yeah, we would we'd bring Bridger along. All right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:05.758)

All right. Reese Glover.com, right? Reese Glover. I I I was I remember the question I was gonna ask you when I was talking about songwriting. When you listen to other artists, you know, some of some of the lyrics, you know, they they're very open to interpretation. Yeah. as a musician, are you dissecting

Speaker 2 (47:08.94)

Reese Glover Music Doctor. Reese Music Doctor. Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:33.324)

The songs when you're listening to Do you or are you listening like, you know, just for superficial, like, it's got a good beat, good melody? Like how deep are you listening to a song?

Speaker 2 (47:44.81)

I would say it takes me like a few listens to like fully dive into like if I really like this the sound of the song and then I'm like, okay, if is it lyrically like is it kind of complicated or do they leave it open for interpretation? Then I'll kind of dive into the lyrics, I'd say. My wife, on the other hand, is like she's she's very lyrically like motivated and be like, I'm gonna understand what this person's trying to say. Yeah. so she's definitely that way.

but yeah, I would say that, you know, it takes me a few lists where I'm like, I really like this this song. I'm gonna dive into the lyrics now. So but she's like right off the bat, I'm gonna know what every single word this person's saying in the song. So

Speaker 1 (48:25.496)

So we're building a Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever s playlist on Spotify for the hunting season. What songs come to mind that need to be on that playlist from your perspective?

Speaker 2 (48:32.471)

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:40.157)

well Kobe Akoff has got a great song. I'm sure you know that one already. Yeah, it's I I'm trying to rem I think it's called Boy and a Bird Dog. Boy and a Bird Dog. great song. you gotta

Speaker 1 (48:44.366)

The bird dog song?

Speaker 1 (48:52.59)

Shout out to Kobe. Shout out we'd love to have you on the podcast, Kobe. Bob S at Pheasants Forever.

Speaker 2 (48:56.92)

Yeah, Kobe, do it.

Yeah, I met Kobe down in Nashville, Tennessee, at the Ryman. He was wow. Yeah, we're wearing the same hat. He looked at I literally walked past him to be. I walked past him. I was like, why do I recognize that guy? And he looks at me and goes, Nice hat, man. What was the hat? It was it said Ramblin' Man on it and it's like a Seager, Seeger brand hat. so we we actually have a picture together. so yeah, shout out Kobe Akoff.

nicest guy ever. Went and saw him at on at Seventh Street Entry in Minneapolis. Last fall. Last fall or just like a couple months ago. Yeah. Made win last fall. so he's great. other other people I mean Turp Pikes, the bird hunters, you gotta add that. That's an object. It's already I'm sure it's so is Colby's. Yeah, Colby's is too. yeah, there's a there's surprisingly quite a few songs out there that I'll have I'll I'll have to send you some. but yeah there's there's a few that come to mind that I can think of. So

Speaker 1 (49:30.414)

Yeah, like last

Speaker 2 (49:56.28)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:57.006)

All right guys, as we round third and head towards home, Casey, what do you got left?

Speaker 4 (50:01.902)

I wanna ask you a question actually. Well

Speaker 1 (50:03.886)

Yeah. Turn of the tables. All right. I can't play guitar, but I have tried so freaking hard. Really? Yeah, I'm tone deaf. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:14.464)

I want to talk about listen listening to the song. So obviously, sort of the inspiration f for Reese coming on an the first time was the song and your essay about ESC. You've heard it before. is this something that will be difficult for you to listen to if it was on a playlist?

Speaker 1 (50:25.218)

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (50:34.408)

no. No. No. I am past the point of breaking down and tears and not being able to tie. And you know, that come the so I've lost you know, as a kid, I've lost two bird dogs. Yep. And then as an adult, Tramel Izzy, which was the one that died in the woods. that was horrific. And then Eskey.

Kind of my once in a lifetime dog. that was I I it still hurts. Yeah. you know, we're a year and a half away. But the connection of re sending the song to me isn't a negative. You know, we it could be in some people's minds in terms of that that sa sor sorrow. but no, no, it's it's I'm to the point of gosh, that was just such an

Awesome dog and yeah, I have great memories. And y do I wish she was still here? Absolutely. You know, one more hunt, one more day. But I try in every season to squeeze the most out of it. And no w when I carried Izzy, who is the dog that ruptured her karate out of her, when I carried her out of the woods, you know, essentially the worst day of my life. Yeah, from that point forward.

And then the combination of like being diagnosed with type one diabetes, like my own personal mortality. Like every day I've got this damn insulin pump on my belt. Like I wake up and well, tomorrow's not promised. Right. It's not promised for me and it's not promised for my dog. And I like, don't misunderstand me. I'm not like living every day in the moment like you're supposed to, but I I do have that weighing on me at probably I think a different level than before I was diagnosed.

And before I carried a dog dying out of my in my arms. so long-winded answer. Yeah. the association with Reese's song is a positive and if anybody can think about going into this hunting season, like savor every moment. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:54.222)

Yeah. You one quick follow up. Sorry. You you referred to Eskey both in the essay and in the intro as the as a once in a lifetime dog. I've heard a lot of bird dog guys over the years say things along the lines of you get one gr truly great dog in your lifetime. Do you believe she was truly that dog or are all your dogs once in a lifetime dogs?

Speaker 1 (52:57.356)

Yeah, that was a long winded answer, so

Speaker 1 (53:24.106)

That's a good follow-up. because most of the people that are close to me, like family or really close hunting friends that have seen the spectrum of my dogs, that statement that ESC was my once-in-a-lifetime dog, they're like, that's a surprise. Right. They their the perception is trammel. my very first bird dog, and arguably the best.

Speaker 4 (53:45.227)

sure.

Speaker 1 (53:54.114)

Hunting dog was my once in a lifetime dog. Trammel was fabulous. And she was like the dog when we first got married. Meredith and I got married and moved into our first house. Like you did like did all those first to it. Like they make movies about those, right? and Trammell was a terrific dog, terrific pet. And you know, Izzy, Gitchy, Winter, like hopefully

all seventeen dogs in my future. Right. What made Esky sort of different was her bond to me. She was a shadow to me. Like the hunting or in the house, that dog was an umbilical cord to me. And

I not the best hunter of the mix, but excellent and very locked in. Like i if I winged a bird, like she saved my ass. and folks that have followed along with Rooster Road Trip have been able to see like her saving my ass and just having some spectacular retrieves and it it was just kind of a very personal

Speaker 3 (55:04.982)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:21.752)

Friendship bond that makes her my once.

Speaker 4 (55:25.878)

I feel that I feel very similar similar to the lap that I have currently and I've been starting to think about that as you know, she'll be eight in September and so yeah, you start to think about as as they age a little bit and how she and I I've lost a couple dogs, but not sort of like you were just saying, not not that I was con as connected to as her and she and she to me, so

Yeah, I was curious to get your perspective on what makes the dog of a lifetime, you know. And I think that's what really sets them apart because I I I I think that most folks who've had a lot of dogs wouldn't necessarily say that their best hunting dog is their dog of a lifetime, right? It's more about the the the one that you've got that connection with. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:16.3)

Yeah. And I I guess ultimately I'm not a believer that you're only gonna get one. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm more of an optimist. Yeah. You know, like they're all wonderful. i just ASCII stands out a little differently. Like I Jared was fortunate enough. I'm pretty sure the first time we ever hunted together was with Trammell. And, you know, whether it's Jared or you know, Andrew and

Or Kaharsk people have heard some of these names on the podcast. Yeah. You know, like once in a lifetime. That was Trammell. Tramble was your once in a lifetime dog. It's like Tramwol was probably the best hunting dog I will ever own. Yep. But they all hold a little bit different piece of your heart. And Esky just had two percent more than the others.

Speaker 3 (57:08.654)

I remember hunting behind Tramel on a couple well, I think Rooster Road Trip, the one that we went on together back in when was that? Fourteen. Yeah. It was just one of those dogs, like when it goes on point, it's like, you know, you don't have to sit there and think, I wonder if it's me jackrabbit or something like that. Like that dog just points points burts like

Speaker 1 (57:16.152)

Twenty fourteen or something.

Speaker 1 (57:28.27)

Tricks.

Speaker 2 (57:29.452)

Now it was pretty fun. Do you think that's a just kind of a the reason being he was your best hunting dog, was it innate for him to be that? Or do you think you were you spent the most time training because you it sounds like you were you're just newly married, you're pretty young at the time. Is like the effort that went into training more what paid off or

Speaker 1 (57:48.002)

So clarification, all of my dogs have always been females. Okay, even even though they have like trammels named after my childhood. That's That's no trammel. but that's a story for another day. to answer your question, I think you know, I had some wonderful training assistance from Steve Reese at Top Gun Kennels, the breeder where trammel came from. Actually all of my shorters have come.

But Tramel in particular, as my first bird dog, Steve helped me out a ton as a puppy. And then you know, Meredith and I were young married couples. So we went to every single obedience class together. And everything we did together so that it was very consistent. And, you know, we were, I don't know, 29. Or I was 29. She was a little younger. And we had just no obligation, like trammel.

probably hunted more than any dog that yeah I've ever had. So repetition, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:52.504)

This talking about

Speaker 1 (58:54.734)

that makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (58:56.974)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:59.342)

thank you for coming back over and doing this.

Speaker 2 (59:02.114)

Yeah, thanks for having me back on. Glad we were able to talk about it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (59:05.042)

Casey, thanks for asking me some questions. Yeah, man. I I I wasn't in expecting, but they were they're fun to get out there and it's therapeutic too. Yeah, do you wanna apologize to Carrie? No. okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (59:16.248)

Thirty thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (59:21.418)

Like her to buy me a piano though, so I can do it and question with with Ballad of the Bird Dog sort of officially out now. and are you with Bridger and just bird dogs in general? Like, are you are you starting to think about sort of this next version of a song for a dog again? Yeah, I'm just curious. Is it on the back of your mind?

Speaker 1 (59:22.956)

Get the

Speaker 2 (59:25.046)

Start the band.

Speaker 1 (59:30.326)

Speaker 2 (59:43.0)

Another bird dog, son?

Speaker 2 (59:47.47)

Potentially. I I I would say right now I don't have anything that's like an idea for a n the next bird dog song. But like like ins inspiration can s can strike at any time I guess. But you know, anytime you're you're, you know, out doing something and with your with your dog you're like, this could be a this could be something to write about. Yeah. But in particular this one was, you know, it's about the bomb, but I think it's just the overall bomb that you have with your dog. Yep. And I I told this on the first podcast.

that I was on was you don't find out until the end of the song that's from the dog's perspective, the the whole song is. but yeah, it really is just about the the bond that you have with your dog and but I don't have anything planned yet, but

Speaker 3 (01:00:30.402)

No, that's cool. I was just curious, but you know, absolutely ride ride this high with this song. Yeah. And we look forward to to listening to the the new cut version of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40.034)

I thought you were gonna suggest like the anthem of the bird dog, kind of a blink one eighty two take. no. No.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45.13)

No. I'll stick with I'll stick with the f the folk song, sort of the country country style.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52.82)

Anthem Far Two. That's my favorite Blink One Eighty two song.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55.402)

Anthem bar two. There's an anthem part three too.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57.87)

Yeah, I s I didn't even know that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59.47)

Do they play that on Pandora?

Speaker 1 (01:01:06.292)

I don't know, but I do know that you can now stream Ballad of the Bird Dog. folks, thank you very much for listening. Reese, the official release, Reese Glover's Ballad of the Bird Dog is gonna take us out. Here you go. Enjoy the song.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54.37)

Live in December, side by side, two birds of a feather in a bench seat ride with a windshield sunrise, it's the ballad of the bird dog.

Cross these plains, where lonesome trains and coyotes cry out here the curvy hat, It's the ballad of the bird dog.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34.126)

The sun's leaning heavy on the fence line, there's a gun at the ready, and it o's to the sky. Wind's right at creekside, it's the ballad of the bird dog. Feathers fly, it's the ballad of the bird dog.

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Head on home when it comes time, I'll thank God for this friend of mine that ties a bind a boy to his bird dog It's a simple eye ballad of the bird dog

Bovin you blind I'll always be a bird dog

Speaker 1 (01:04:00.844)

I'm Bob St.Pierre, reminding you to always follow the dog. Something good will rise. Thanks for listening, folks.